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  • July 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT by Brian Sullivan

    What Two Painters Taught Me About The Health Care Debate

    1-16-07-eavesdropping

    First things first ... yes, I know it is rude to eavesdrop.   But with apologizes to etiquette gurus, a recent conversation I overheard (okay, eavesdropped) between two painters in a deli near my office may have given me some insight into feelings around the health care debate and a new angle to the story - is much of the 'support' for the overhaul plan not support for the plan itself, but rather merely opposition to the health care insurance companies?

    Two weeks ago I was grabbing a sandwich near my office and I overheard two guys in painter gear discussing the President's health care proposal .   One guy was against the plan, asking his buddy if he "really wanted the government running health care."    His buddy, who seemed to favor the plan, had an interesting angle ... his argument was that he really didn't care about the plan on the merits, just that he wanted to, essentially, "stick it to the big insurance companies."    No matter how much the guy opposed to the plan tried to bring up quality of care, big gov't etc., the pro-plan guy always came back to how the big health insurance companies are bad and, again I paraphrase, need to be stopped.

    It was an angle to the debate I hadn't considered ... and I wonder if the latest Rasmussen survey on health care helps confirm that view among others because the numbers on the plan itself are hard to square.

    According to Rasmussen's latest poll, 47% of those surveyed favor the plan, 49% oppose it.    More interesting is that only 23% of those surveyed believe it will lower costs and 53% think it will actually increase costs.

    And here's the real rub - by a margin of 50% to 23% those surveyed believe the passage of the current version of the bill in the House will cause the quality of care to decline.

    So ... let's get this straight:  Half the people support the plan, but even among those who support the plan many feel it will increase costs and provide worse care?

    My first reaction was ???   That doesn't seem logical ... why would anyone support a plan they think will cost more and potentially provide a lesser quality of care?   Then I thought back to the deli conversation.   The pro-health care plan guy wasn't really pro-plan at all ... he was anti-insurance company.    In his view, no matter what the actual plan was or how it turned out, it would be superior to what he clearly viewed as large, bad corporations.

    One wonder if this guy's view is held by others and if it may sway the public debate.

    (Note: I purposefully do not refer to the plan as health care 'reform' because 'reform' is defined as "to put or change into an improved condition" .. and I have no idea on whether this program if it passes will improve or hurt health care in America long term).

'Em

Helping my senior parent wade through doctor's appointments has been a real eye opening experience. Don't get me wrong, they get great health care and fortunately theyre both in pretty good shape. But, they have medicairmedicade with a supplemental and they get referred to specialists all over the place. And for myself, my doctor doesn't seem to be able to do much except also refer. So things that used to be one visit are now 3 or 4 bills, one to a primary care, who doesn't draw blood but refers you to a company or hospital for the blood draw, who send it to a lab to diagnosis, so 4 bills later, I know my cholesterol is a little high and my prescription stays the same?????? It's so complicated and there are so many "new" parties, I'm not surprized costs have risen. If all the referring is because of lawsuits and malpractice insurance, than perhaps a good beginning point is eliminating a few steps. What I don't understand is why have insurance companies allowed the services to snowball so much. Can anyone explain?

July 28, 2009 at 7:02 pm

Claudia

Unfortunately many voters had these same feelings in November. They weren't keen on Obama, they just didn't like President Bush. So by voting for Obama, they were able to throw a protest vote against President Bush by not voting for McCain. So now we are stuck with someone that not many people really wanted because he was the less of two evils.

July 28, 2009 at 3:00 pm

Why Surprised?

The Dems are running ads in vulnerable states pushing the idea of fighting against the evil insurance companies. I agree that health insurance needs reform, as well as tort reform, elimination of direct to market ads by pharma, etc., but none of that is being debated. The Dems need a villain, and the insurance companies are it for now.

July 28, 2009 at 2:55 pm

Activist

You'd think we would be so interested in health potential as we are in health care. With lung cancer the #1 killer in the US ? I'm not going to think twice that automobile and petro exhaust doesn't contribute to that. Our energy solutions ? Coal and oil ? Probably cost us more than this health bill can afford to remedy. We're ignoring the causal factors leading to poor health all the while chasing the ambulance- hmm - to the hospital that won't be a financially fiscal hospital if it's forced to take and provide care for all who pass through the doors. Almost sounds like Community Re-investment Act with the forced mortgages, where banks were simply required or mandated to give out loans - in some cases whether the recipient of the loan had good credit or not. Remember Massachussetts has health coverage but you must pay for it OR face the $900 fine. I find forced mergers leading to the largest global financial corporation (ok ok I said global, but I'll say 'in the world') equally questionable as forced health insurance policies. There are no guarantees in life, I do not believe there exists base rights to HAVING health care, but I DO believe there need to be base rights to having HEALTH, and healthful living, e.g. clean air, clean water, it's bizarre you have to say Clean actually. The last two Native Americans I read from, Chief Seattle and Black Elk BOTH warned of this - mess. Total sellout to that which provides life for chump change for the insolent greedy.

July 28, 2009 at 2:51 pm

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  • Brian Sullivan joined FOX Business Network (FBN) in April 2008 as an anchor. He co-anchors the 10am-12pm ET hours of the FOX Business block. Prior to joining FBN, Sullivan served as an anchor for Bloomberg Television where he hosted the programs Morning Call and In Focus.

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