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		<title>By: JimK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, how come you did not use the data point of 1992-2000?  During that period of time marginal rate was increased from 31% to 39.6% and if you will recall we added about 2.9 million jobs per year (about 25,000,000 total jobs) and had the longest period of post war expansion.

Why is it that high marginal tax rates create jobs?  Well the government is going to spend the same no matter what revenues are, so it will need to borrow cash if revenues are not high.  When marginal tax rates on high earners are high the government takes in a lot of $$ and doesn&#039;t need to run deficits, in fact as Clinton showed the government can even run surpluses and pay down debt.  The public debt is well known to crowd out private debt and raise interest rates for individuals and business who seek capital.  So when you have higher marginal rates you have greater private access to capital with lower interest rates.  The results?  Job growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, how come you did not use the data point of 1992-2000?  During that period of time marginal rate was increased from 31% to 39.6% and if you will recall we added about 2.9 million jobs per year (about 25,000,000 total jobs) and had the longest period of post war expansion.</p>
<p>Why is it that high marginal tax rates create jobs?  Well the government is going to spend the same no matter what revenues are, so it will need to borrow cash if revenues are not high.  When marginal tax rates on high earners are high the government takes in a lot of $$ and doesn&#8217;t need to run deficits, in fact as Clinton showed the government can even run surpluses and pay down debt.  The public debt is well known to crowd out private debt and raise interest rates for individuals and business who seek capital.  So when you have higher marginal rates you have greater private access to capital with lower interest rates.  The results?  Job growth.</p>
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		<title>By: estistsaite</title>
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		<dc:creator>estistsaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://newdayprofit.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Putting up of money, investment programs and earnings for all 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://newdayprofit.com" rel="nofollow">Putting up of money, investment programs and earnings for all </p>
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		<title>By: Nacho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, do you really have to explain &quot;median?&quot;  Anyone that doesn&#039;t know what that means probably shouldn&#039;t be in this conversation.  But to get on with the quote above, why do you think a company would take the salary of one high level retiree and hire numerous others?  The company would likely still need to replace this man position.  It might be for less money because of less experience time, but its going to be in the same neighborhood, and may even have to be higher.  Getting rid of highly payed workers isn&#039;t going to lead to less unemployment.  There is just a huge gap in that logic.  If we get ride of the CEO or CFO or some company, who&#039;s making the high level decisions, if we don&#039;t hire someone else in those positions, which demand a high salary?  Do the 25 low earners vote?

I don&#039;t mind the idea of extending the income tax brackets further up the pay scale too much, but the logic behind your reasons for wanting this is terribly flawed.  The only reason to do it is because the government needs more money and its an easy place to look. But when you hear stats like the top 5% of earners pay 50% of the taxes in the country, I&#039;m inclined to think that top 5% already pays enough.  Maybe we should start working on the lower incomes that net money from the government through our socialist programs. Or we could abolish progressive income tax all together and create a national sales tax w/ a flat income tax. High spenders are taxed heavily, low spenders hardly taxed at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, do you really have to explain &#8220;median?&#8221;  Anyone that doesn&#8217;t know what that means probably shouldn&#8217;t be in this conversation.  But to get on with the quote above, why do you think a company would take the salary of one high level retiree and hire numerous others?  The company would likely still need to replace this man position.  It might be for less money because of less experience time, but its going to be in the same neighborhood, and may even have to be higher.  Getting rid of highly payed workers isn&#8217;t going to lead to less unemployment.  There is just a huge gap in that logic.  If we get ride of the CEO or CFO or some company, who&#8217;s making the high level decisions, if we don&#8217;t hire someone else in those positions, which demand a high salary?  Do the 25 low earners vote?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the idea of extending the income tax brackets further up the pay scale too much, but the logic behind your reasons for wanting this is terribly flawed.  The only reason to do it is because the government needs more money and its an easy place to look. But when you hear stats like the top 5% of earners pay 50% of the taxes in the country, I&#8217;m inclined to think that top 5% already pays enough.  Maybe we should start working on the lower incomes that net money from the government through our socialist programs. Or we could abolish progressive income tax all together and create a national sales tax w/ a flat income tax. High spenders are taxed heavily, low spenders hardly taxed at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Kessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy Pelosi is right! I cannot believe that I finally agree with her!!
I do not agree with the laws that she helped to put in place, and i intend to abide only in laws I agree with.
  I have been a citizen my whole life, as if that means a damn thing!!  
  IT is TEA PARTY TIME, AND THE STATE OF CALIFORNEAH IS FIRST ON MY LIST!!!
WE have a duty to make this right!! If that means kick them out of office then its time to start!
  I have followed the law of the land my whole life, just to get kicked in the teeth by illegal workers.  
  Nancy told us not to obey the law!  Now that I have her permission, I am going to join the illegals, and make some real money any way I can, WITHOUT PAYING TAXES TO A SICK GOVERNMENT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy Pelosi is right! I cannot believe that I finally agree with her!!<br />
I do not agree with the laws that she helped to put in place, and i intend to abide only in laws I agree with.<br />
  I have been a citizen my whole life, as if that means a damn thing!!<br />
  IT is TEA PARTY TIME, AND THE STATE OF CALIFORNEAH IS FIRST ON MY LIST!!!<br />
WE have a duty to make this right!! If that means kick them out of office then its time to start!<br />
  I have followed the law of the land my whole life, just to get kicked in the teeth by illegal workers.<br />
  Nancy told us not to obey the law!  Now that I have her permission, I am going to join the illegals, and make some real money any way I can, WITHOUT PAYING TAXES TO A SICK GOVERNMENT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bw55</title>
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		<dc:creator>bw55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela&#039;s point is exactly right. It doesn&#039;t matter what the marginal rate is when tax shelters allow reducing taxable income to 0. I had extensive experience working with income taxes in the late 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s. I saw the effect of those tax shelters Pamela is referring to. I also saw what happened when rates were lowered and most of the tax shelters eliminated. Many high income people who never paid tax began to get substantial tax bills.

I also agree with Corey&#039;s point that the tax law should not be used for behavior modification. It seems to me that we are heading back in the old direction of higher rates with many new deductions and credits. Those so called targeted tax incentives are really just more loopholes.

I believe that reducing tax rates would stimulate the economy and lower unemployment. Another factor that is increasing unemployment is the increased unemployment benefits we have right now. Yesterday I overheard someone saying that she was making more on unemployment than she was working. She has no incentive to find a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela&#8217;s point is exactly right. It doesn&#8217;t matter what the marginal rate is when tax shelters allow reducing taxable income to 0. I had extensive experience working with income taxes in the late 70&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s. I saw the effect of those tax shelters Pamela is referring to. I also saw what happened when rates were lowered and most of the tax shelters eliminated. Many high income people who never paid tax began to get substantial tax bills.</p>
<p>I also agree with Corey&#8217;s point that the tax law should not be used for behavior modification. It seems to me that we are heading back in the old direction of higher rates with many new deductions and credits. Those so called targeted tax incentives are really just more loopholes.</p>
<p>I believe that reducing tax rates would stimulate the economy and lower unemployment. Another factor that is increasing unemployment is the increased unemployment benefits we have right now. Yesterday I overheard someone saying that she was making more on unemployment than she was working. She has no incentive to find a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey in GA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey in GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The resources used in avoiding taxation are less a result of taxation levels than they are a result of needlessly complex tax laws. Taxation should not be used for behavior modification (targeted deductions and credits such as the mortgage interest deduction), but only to provide government with necessary funds.

I think the other important point is the difference between heavy taxation of those with extraordinarily high income versus taxation of those who make on the order of 6 times the national average. If a person feels that 60% taxation on the amount of income above 25 times the national median income (50% of people earn more than this amount, 50% earn less) would require him to retire, then we can certainly use those funds to provide jobs for several people who would otherwise be unemployed because the company wouldn&#039;t have the money after paying one person the wage of 25 average people. If one uses the median  income ($32,140 for persons over 25 with earnings in 2005) and applies a heavy tax to the amount more than 25 times that, the tax is unchanged on those making less than $800,000 per year, and this would be increased in the event that there was a family to support.

Understand that a person making $1 million would only pay the heavy tax on $200,000, leaving the income up to that point unaffected. Thus the only people who would feel a significant effect would be those making far more than $800,000 per year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The resources used in avoiding taxation are less a result of taxation levels than they are a result of needlessly complex tax laws. Taxation should not be used for behavior modification (targeted deductions and credits such as the mortgage interest deduction), but only to provide government with necessary funds.</p>
<p>I think the other important point is the difference between heavy taxation of those with extraordinarily high income versus taxation of those who make on the order of 6 times the national average. If a person feels that 60% taxation on the amount of income above 25 times the national median income (50% of people earn more than this amount, 50% earn less) would require him to retire, then we can certainly use those funds to provide jobs for several people who would otherwise be unemployed because the company wouldn&#8217;t have the money after paying one person the wage of 25 average people. If one uses the median  income ($32,140 for persons over 25 with earnings in 2005) and applies a heavy tax to the amount more than 25 times that, the tax is unchanged on those making less than $800,000 per year, and this would be increased in the event that there was a family to support.</p>
<p>Understand that a person making $1 million would only pay the heavy tax on $200,000, leaving the income up to that point unaffected. Thus the only people who would feel a significant effect would be those making far more than $800,000 per year.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about all the infamous tax shelters of the time?  Those stated marginal tax rates were not the effective real marginal tax rates because money was diverted into shelters after a certain point.  Also, does anyone really believe that Obama&#039;s budget will work with the ONLY tax increase staying under 40% for over $250,000???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about all the infamous tax shelters of the time?  Those stated marginal tax rates were not the effective real marginal tax rates because money was diverted into shelters after a certain point.  Also, does anyone really believe that Obama&#8217;s budget will work with the ONLY tax increase staying under 40% for over $250,000???</p>
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