Comments on: GM Sends a Message to the President by Cutting More Jobs http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/ FOXBusiness Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:24:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: jay http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3931 jay Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:29:33 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3931 Break the UAW and watch the US auto manufacturers start kickin ass! They cannot ever be competitive with the extraordinary burden of union costs and inefficiencies! GM, Ford and Chrysler make terrific cars, just not the most popular (today). How do these excessive costs hurt the automakers? They can never pay off their debts? They can't invest in better technology? They can't attract capital because they are losing so much money. It is so sad that the American Auto Worker doesn't recognize how they are being held back by the union bosses. Great employees get the same pay and benefits as the marginal ones. Come on America, start buying American as soon as the unions are busted. Hope for BK so those manufacturers can be released from the ball and chain of the union contracts!!!! Break the UAW and watch the US auto manufacturers start kickin ass! They cannot ever be competitive with the extraordinary burden of union costs and inefficiencies! GM, Ford and Chrysler make terrific cars, just not the most popular (today). How do these excessive costs hurt the automakers? They can never pay off their debts? They can’t invest in better technology? They can’t attract capital because they are losing so much money. It is so sad that the American Auto Worker doesn’t recognize how they are being held back by the union bosses. Great employees get the same pay and benefits as the marginal ones. Come on America, start buying American as soon as the unions are busted. Hope for BK so those manufacturers can be released from the ball and chain of the union contracts!!!!

]]> By: earle http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3928 earle Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:41:28 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3928 Your article pretty much covered all I would want to say,but GM's cutting a shift production from their plant in Lordstown,Ohio of the "Cobalt" is literally a slap in the face to President Obama! My personal opinion, Brian? President Obama is on a quest,and the man's visions,and dreams won't be deterred by the arrogance of "Detroit"! His goal is to ween us off foreign oil,rebuilding america's electric grid,and infrastructure to facillitate the future vehicles we envision as a reality in the not so far future. I firmly believe we can get their by helping new,and innovating start-ups,with government seed money finally going in the right direction. PS. Ethanol is a terrible solution for an alternate fuel,and should be aborted. Thanks JMHO Your article pretty much covered all I would want to say,but GM’s cutting a shift production from their plant in Lordstown,Ohio of the “Cobalt” is literally a slap in the face to President Obama! My personal opinion, Brian? President Obama is on a quest,and the man’s visions,and dreams won’t be deterred by the arrogance of “Detroit”! His goal is to ween us off foreign oil,rebuilding america’s electric grid,and infrastructure to facillitate the future vehicles we envision as a reality in the not so far future. I firmly believe we can get their by helping new,and innovating start-ups,with government seed money finally going in the right direction. PS. Ethanol is a terrible solution for an alternate fuel,and should be aborted. Thanks JMHO

]]> By: Mr. G http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3927 Mr. G Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:04:40 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3927 Reality check! - Car sales in 2008 down approx. 34% across the board REGARDLESS of the type of car. - Consumer debt up 315% since 1989. People have run out of money and CANNOT AFFORD a car even if it gets 50 mpg. - Consumers will take 2-3 years to clean up this mess IF they start now and get really INTENSE. Then they can buy a car. - $700 Billion a year being spent to buy oil from countries that hate us! Conclusion: - There will be demand but GM better scale back and plan accordingly. Throttle back quickly and see how 2009 goes before revving up the engine again. - Oil is a limited resource. Get out from under these mobsters called OPEC as quick as we can. - I neither love nor hate Obama. He is untested which is why I didn't vote for him but he has my best wishes as does GM. We are all in the same boat. Mr. G, Dallas, Texas Reality check!

- Car sales in 2008 down approx. 34% across the board REGARDLESS of the type of car.
- Consumer debt up 315% since 1989. People have run out of money and CANNOT AFFORD a car even if it gets 50 mpg.
- Consumers will take 2-3 years to clean up this mess IF they start now and get really INTENSE. Then they can buy a car.
- $700 Billion a year being spent to buy oil from countries that hate us!

Conclusion:
- There will be demand but GM better scale back and plan accordingly. Throttle back quickly and see how 2009 goes before revving up the engine again.
- Oil is a limited resource. Get out from under these mobsters called OPEC as quick as we can.
- I neither love nor hate Obama. He is untested which is why I didn’t vote for him but he has my best wishes as does GM. We are all in the same boat.

Mr. G,
Dallas, Texas

]]> By: tom in SF http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3921 tom in SF Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:50:25 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3921 Let me see if I can predict one scenario that is most likely to happen. 1. in 2010, California raises it's weighted MPG avergage target to, lets say 30. That means of all the total vehicles that one manufacturer sells in that state, the weighted average has to be 30mpg. That means half get more, half get less than 30. When GM sees the real time sales for 24 mpg trucks will push the wieghted average over 30mpg, they will be forced to stop shipments of those most profitable trucks in their largest market (CA) until someone magically buys enough money losing 40 mpg "magic" models to keep the weighted average under 30. Shortage in CA of best selling truck, overstock of loser Cobalt or other brand. That will do wonders for the domestic automobile market. Nice payback to the union members who voted for Jobama. Let me see if I can predict one scenario that is most likely to happen.
1. in 2010, California raises it’s weighted MPG avergage target to, lets say 30. That means of all the total vehicles that one manufacturer sells in that state, the weighted average has to be 30mpg. That means half get more, half get less than 30. When GM sees the real time sales for 24 mpg trucks will push the wieghted average over 30mpg, they will be forced to stop shipments of those most profitable trucks in their largest market (CA) until someone magically buys enough money losing 40 mpg “magic” models to keep the weighted average under 30. Shortage in CA of best selling truck, overstock of loser Cobalt or other brand. That will do wonders for the domestic automobile market. Nice payback to the union members who voted for Jobama.

]]> By: Patrick Norton http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3916 Patrick Norton Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:57:54 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3916 Being a tractor trailer company driver over the road it is common to run the rig 24/7 to keep the cab heated and cooled. The company I work for has over 5,000 rigs in operation everyday. The department of Transportation only allows a driver to drive 10 hours and sit idle 14 hours a day. The fleet managers are always complaining about budgets and fuel costs. If our government and big businesses were worried about air quality and budgets all these over the road drivers would be in motels during their rest periods. Your cars and SUV's are green compared to my companies tractor trailers and their fuel costs are more then motel costs. Some days I wounder why I am taking a load of California cheese to Wisconsin, or Boston made furniture to California, with the return trip to Boston with California made furniture. Most working class Americans purchases are on a budget; it is the yacht clubs that need these long haul exotic varieties. If the wealthiest of Americans would stop acting like spoiled children needing private jets for transportation and seventeen types of cheeses at their cocaine pool parties, you could keep your dum bass boat. Being a tractor trailer company driver over the road it is common to run the rig 24/7 to keep the cab heated and cooled. The company I work for has over 5,000 rigs in operation everyday. The department of Transportation only allows a driver to drive 10 hours and sit idle 14 hours a day. The fleet managers are always complaining about budgets and fuel costs. If our government and big businesses were worried about air quality and budgets all these over the road drivers would be in motels during their rest periods. Your cars and SUV’s are green compared to my companies tractor trailers and their fuel costs are more then motel costs. Some days I wounder why I am taking a load of California cheese to Wisconsin, or Boston made furniture to California, with the return trip to Boston with California made furniture. Most working class Americans purchases are on a budget; it is the yacht clubs that need these long haul exotic varieties. If the wealthiest of Americans would stop acting like spoiled children needing private jets for transportation and seventeen types of cheeses at their cocaine pool parties, you could keep your dum bass boat.

]]> By: Mondo http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3915 Mondo Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:05:43 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3915 That's the best picture of GM you could come up with? A shot of a GM sign taken in a moving car on the highway? That’s the best picture of GM you could come up with? A shot of a GM sign taken in a moving car on the highway?

]]> By: Drive a Dodge http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3914 Drive a Dodge Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:43:23 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3914 They will never have the free cash flow for development of more fuel efficient technologies. We have become a government dependant society, give the government your money, and let them decide who needs it. "Spread the wealth" They will never have the free cash flow for development of more fuel efficient technologies. We have become a government dependant society, give the government your money, and let them decide who needs it. “Spread the wealth”

]]> By: Trader55 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3913 Trader55 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:15:58 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3913 I think it would be really funny if GM, Ford, and Chrysler just said no. Stop producing cars for the states that pass more stringent requirements. More layoffs and less taxes and fees for California. Try pulling that boat with a Prius. I think it would be really funny if GM, Ford, and Chrysler just said no. Stop producing cars for the states that pass more stringent requirements. More layoffs and less taxes and fees for California. Try pulling that boat with a Prius.

]]> By: TomV http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3912 TomV Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:40:16 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3912 This article and the comments so far haven't looked at other repercussions. Own a boat or have an ATV(s)? How are you going to haul them using a Toyota Prius? So say goodbye also to companies that make/sell boats etc. Taken a road trip w kids in a small car? Fun, wasn't it! So say goodbye to chunk of tourist industry. I see many other industries that will be impacted. CA and the other 12 states as well as our new President may figure forcing the issue, regardless of the impact on the auto companies is the only way to make things happen. But I'm hoping that those same states like the fact that their holier than thou attitude is going to have a lot more bill-payers than just the auto companies. There are some days when I think CA should do all the other 49 states a favor, have an earthquake, and slide into the ocean. Their lack of planning had them begging for power several years ago, and the state is broke and can't even pay it's bills. So why is our president allowing this disfunctional state to literally be the tail that wags the dog? This article and the comments so far haven’t looked at other repercussions. Own a boat or have an ATV(s)? How are you going to haul them using a Toyota Prius? So say goodbye also to companies that make/sell boats etc. Taken a road trip w kids in a small car? Fun, wasn’t it! So say goodbye to chunk of tourist industry. I see many other industries that will be impacted. CA and the other 12 states as well as our new President may figure forcing the issue, regardless of the impact on the auto companies is the only way to make things happen. But I’m hoping that those same states like the fact that their holier than thou attitude is going to have a lot more bill-payers than just the auto companies. There are some days when I think CA should do all the other 49 states a favor, have an earthquake, and slide into the ocean. Their lack of planning had them begging for power several years ago, and the state is broke and can’t even pay it’s bills. So why is our president allowing this disfunctional state to literally be the tail that wags the dog?

]]> By: floyd http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/01/26/gm-sends-a-message-to-the-president-by-cutting-more-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-3911 floyd Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:01 +0000 http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=592#comment-3911 WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP. ONE COUNTRY? UNITER NOT DIVIDER? MORE HOT AIR FROM WASHINGTON. US AUTO MFGRS MAY CHOOSE NOT TO PRODUCE/SELL CARS IN THOSE STATES WHO IMPOSE SUCH IGNORANT AND DRACONIAN STANDARDS. GLOBAL WARMING BEING CAUSED BY HUMAN ACTIVITY, NOT ANY NATURAL CYCLE? WHAT ABOUT THE SCIENTISTS WHO DISAGREE? DO THEY NOT HAVE A POINT? WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP. ONE COUNTRY? UNITER NOT DIVIDER? MORE HOT AIR FROM WASHINGTON. US AUTO MFGRS MAY CHOOSE NOT TO PRODUCE/SELL CARS IN THOSE STATES WHO IMPOSE SUCH IGNORANT AND DRACONIAN STANDARDS. GLOBAL WARMING BEING CAUSED BY HUMAN ACTIVITY, NOT ANY NATURAL CYCLE? WHAT ABOUT THE SCIENTISTS WHO DISAGREE? DO THEY NOT HAVE A POINT?

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