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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT HAS A GOOD GRIP ON THE THINGS THAT MATTER.  OTHERWISE WHY WORK SO HARD TO ACHIEVE MORE THAN OUR PARENTS DID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT HAS A GOOD GRIP ON THE THINGS THAT MATTER.  OTHERWISE WHY WORK SO HARD TO ACHIEVE MORE THAN OUR PARENTS DID.</p>
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		<title>By: JAMES MADISON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAMES MADISON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.... fire them ALL start with new people.

Of all the proposals I like the Fair Tax the most, but the solution is NOT in taxation, but smaller government and independence from government at every level.

Look at the price of oil/fuel .... what caused it.... a cessation/severe reduction of consumption and a move to alternatives that breaks the monopoly.

Pay off all debt and don&#039;t go in debt. Then stop using credit cards. Purchase that which increases independence and breaks monopolies.

Purchase only from the best of the best those with the utmost integrity and pride of craftsmanship. Yes, you will have less quantity but you will inspire quality and faithness.

Other than national defense, if we &quot;do the right thing&quot; we don&#039;t need much government and government is overhead as it produces almost nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;. fire them ALL start with new people.</p>
<p>Of all the proposals I like the Fair Tax the most, but the solution is NOT in taxation, but smaller government and independence from government at every level.</p>
<p>Look at the price of oil/fuel &#8230;. what caused it&#8230;. a cessation/severe reduction of consumption and a move to alternatives that breaks the monopoly.</p>
<p>Pay off all debt and don&#8217;t go in debt. Then stop using credit cards. Purchase that which increases independence and breaks monopolies.</p>
<p>Purchase only from the best of the best those with the utmost integrity and pride of craftsmanship. Yes, you will have less quantity but you will inspire quality and faithness.</p>
<p>Other than national defense, if we &#8220;do the right thing&#8221; we don&#8217;t need much government and government is overhead as it produces almost nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Prima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s more valuable and missing here is a chart showing tax rates from say - 1940 onwards.

I observe in 1960 ? Lyndon Johnson then Reagan a bit- but under both Bush&#039;s - tax rates hit the 30&#039;s   - STARTING from near 90&#039;s  iirc in 1940&#039;s for top percentiles.

so, we went from 90% to 60, 50, then under Johnson, Bush I and Bush II iirc, it hovered in the 30&#039;s - MAYBE it did under Reagan too.  Either way, I ALWAYS found those BLIPS on high percentile dropping to - well- no lower than 30 to date. 

Now, seeing it THAAAAYAT way, on a time line, you will see three blips if I recall, where taxes hit low 30&#039;s.   This last admin was one of them.

I have to interest one way or the other other than I recall seeing the entire SPAN of history on tax rates, and political office, it&#039;s interesting to note Bush I and II both reach 30&#039;s where in all of US history to the 40&#039;s - I think we only have 3 real big blips.

doesn&#039;t matter.

no jobs, or higher unemployment - OFTEN is to no funds to employ with - or maybe credit - who knows what drives the unemployment, but no jobs = less taxes coming in to pay for the companies that got the loans to ? extend to the consumer ? eventually ? 

or has it come to this...

Real tax payers money/monies against paper debt on throw the dart at the board losses on derivatives.

I suppose it&#039;s important to follow through and realize that tax money backing TARP, depends on jobs certainly to follow through with backing it to have taxes to pay income on from anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s more valuable and missing here is a chart showing tax rates from say &#8211; 1940 onwards.</p>
<p>I observe in 1960 ? Lyndon Johnson then Reagan a bit- but under both Bush&#8217;s &#8211; tax rates hit the 30&#8217;s   &#8211; STARTING from near 90&#8217;s  iirc in 1940&#8217;s for top percentiles.</p>
<p>so, we went from 90% to 60, 50, then under Johnson, Bush I and Bush II iirc, it hovered in the 30&#8217;s &#8211; MAYBE it did under Reagan too.  Either way, I ALWAYS found those BLIPS on high percentile dropping to &#8211; well- no lower than 30 to date. </p>
<p>Now, seeing it THAAAAYAT way, on a time line, you will see three blips if I recall, where taxes hit low 30&#8217;s.   This last admin was one of them.</p>
<p>I have to interest one way or the other other than I recall seeing the entire SPAN of history on tax rates, and political office, it&#8217;s interesting to note Bush I and II both reach 30&#8217;s where in all of US history to the 40&#8217;s &#8211; I think we only have 3 real big blips.</p>
<p>doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>no jobs, or higher unemployment &#8211; OFTEN is to no funds to employ with &#8211; or maybe credit &#8211; who knows what drives the unemployment, but no jobs = less taxes coming in to pay for the companies that got the loans to ? extend to the consumer ? eventually ? </p>
<p>or has it come to this&#8230;</p>
<p>Real tax payers money/monies against paper debt on throw the dart at the board losses on derivatives.</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s important to follow through and realize that tax money backing TARP, depends on jobs certainly to follow through with backing it to have taxes to pay income on from anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, #5) This need not be true, in fact it probably isn&#039;t: how many businesses right now go out of business due to the fact they pay onerous taxes? Businesses don&#039;t pay taxes anyway- they simply pass the cost on to their clients. Businesses already charge sales taxes, use taxes, SALT, etc. to clients and clientele has not dried up. 

The flat tax IS the best way to go, but the political will to implement it is not there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, #5) This need not be true, in fact it probably isn&#8217;t: how many businesses right now go out of business due to the fact they pay onerous taxes? Businesses don&#8217;t pay taxes anyway- they simply pass the cost on to their clients. Businesses already charge sales taxes, use taxes, SALT, etc. to clients and clientele has not dried up. </p>
<p>The flat tax IS the best way to go, but the political will to implement it is not there.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, a flat tax need not be a consumption tax (although as a matter of principle, it is more efficient to tax consumption instead of taxing production). On to your points:

1) As mentioned above, a flat tax can be taxed on production, but at a lower level, without deductions, exemptions, credits and exclusions. A 10% tax on ALL citizens (that&#039;s right, ALL. It is not right nor fair that the poor are exempted from paying taxes even though they consume more of the public goods that are being paid for) would be efficient and predictable and eliminate much of the waste that is associated with tax planning at all levels.

2) This point is moot, as a sales tax is levied in many states that affect the poor, as well as a gas tax. However, a sales tax is flat and predictable and it consumes a share of the price of the good being purchased relative to the price of the good that is being bought (i.e. a $1 million home would yield a higher tax than a $100,000 home, thus proportionately causing the rich to pay a higher tax). 

3 &amp; 4) An amendment to #1 to address 3&amp;4: give low to middle income individuals tax credits to offset the cost of state and local taxes such as income taxes and property taxes. However, this one can be optional because of the total cost savings that the taxpayer would incur at the national level would translate into real wealth for the taxpayer at the private level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, a flat tax need not be a consumption tax (although as a matter of principle, it is more efficient to tax consumption instead of taxing production). On to your points:</p>
<p>1) As mentioned above, a flat tax can be taxed on production, but at a lower level, without deductions, exemptions, credits and exclusions. A 10% tax on ALL citizens (that&#8217;s right, ALL. It is not right nor fair that the poor are exempted from paying taxes even though they consume more of the public goods that are being paid for) would be efficient and predictable and eliminate much of the waste that is associated with tax planning at all levels.</p>
<p>2) This point is moot, as a sales tax is levied in many states that affect the poor, as well as a gas tax. However, a sales tax is flat and predictable and it consumes a share of the price of the good being purchased relative to the price of the good that is being bought (i.e. a $1 million home would yield a higher tax than a $100,000 home, thus proportionately causing the rich to pay a higher tax). </p>
<p>3 &amp; 4) An amendment to #1 to address 3&amp;4: give low to middle income individuals tax credits to offset the cost of state and local taxes such as income taxes and property taxes. However, this one can be optional because of the total cost savings that the taxpayer would incur at the national level would translate into real wealth for the taxpayer at the private level.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is California, we are in trouble because of the illegal immigration problem. There have been numerous reports here about illegals taking nieces and nephews into the welfare office claiming them as thier own. Unfortunatly they cant be turned away because that would be &quot;inhumane&quot;. Our political correctness here on the &quot;Left Coast&quot; has given nothing but opportunities to these people who are here specifically to take advantage of the Liberal generosity. I pay my taxes as every working american should but fprgive me if I get REALLY upset when these people get an &quot;Earned Income Tax Credit&quot; and they dont even pay taxes!!!! And the looney Libs defend this by saying &quot;they pay taxes when they buy good&quot; well so do but am I allowed to check that little box marked EIC on my tax return? NOPE! If these idiots would use the money the way it was intended, we wouldnt be in this mess but greed has enveloped ALL of Washington. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. If I am hired to do a job and I dont do a good job, I get fired...shouldnt Congress? Lets clean house and start over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is California, we are in trouble because of the illegal immigration problem. There have been numerous reports here about illegals taking nieces and nephews into the welfare office claiming them as thier own. Unfortunatly they cant be turned away because that would be &#8220;inhumane&#8221;. Our political correctness here on the &#8220;Left Coast&#8221; has given nothing but opportunities to these people who are here specifically to take advantage of the Liberal generosity. I pay my taxes as every working american should but fprgive me if I get REALLY upset when these people get an &#8220;Earned Income Tax Credit&#8221; and they dont even pay taxes!!!! And the looney Libs defend this by saying &#8220;they pay taxes when they buy good&#8221; well so do but am I allowed to check that little box marked EIC on my tax return? NOPE! If these idiots would use the money the way it was intended, we wouldnt be in this mess but greed has enveloped ALL of Washington. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. If I am hired to do a job and I dont do a good job, I get fired&#8230;shouldnt Congress? Lets clean house and start over.</p>
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		<title>By: earle</title>
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		<dc:creator>earle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;IRS Resctructuring and Reform Act of 1998&quot; was enacted to level the playing field for families with two(household wage earners)spouses working, so as not to over-burden them from contributing to over-whelming payroll taxes, and consumption cost appreciation. Unfortunatly this has create the &quot;creeping bracket&quot; caused by inflation,and the IRS continuous tweaking of the tax code, basically causing/effecting  one contributing spouse(member household)to cut back. It makes no sense for two members to work,if the added income is greatly dimenished by the tax burden(inflation)of &quot;crawling braket inflation&quot; for a net negative return.I&#039;d also like to mention the near non-existence of the &quot;Corporate Payroll Tax&quot; contributing to our GDP revenues,since the &quot;WTO&quot; &quot;Fair Trade incoporated new language. The benefits of #1)Senate Bill(S.1637)10/2003,and#2)House Bill(H.R. 2896)10/2003 inacted to save more than $50Bn in new tax cuts to corporations. The ratioale was an attempt to satify competing business interest,these bills offer dozens of targeted tax breaks for US manufacturers,and multinational corp.&#039;s : tax breaks targeted in this manner can create economic inefficiencies by favoring certain activities over others that may be economically superior but less profitable once the tax break is favored in. Both of these measures also provide a temporary tax reduction for the &quot;Repatriation of Overseass Profits&quot;! Finally, my point is that we have a dynamic economy needing continuous oversite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;IRS Resctructuring and Reform Act of 1998&#8243; was enacted to level the playing field for families with two(household wage earners)spouses working, so as not to over-burden them from contributing to over-whelming payroll taxes, and consumption cost appreciation. Unfortunatly this has create the &#8220;creeping bracket&#8221; caused by inflation,and the IRS continuous tweaking of the tax code, basically causing/effecting  one contributing spouse(member household)to cut back. It makes no sense for two members to work,if the added income is greatly dimenished by the tax burden(inflation)of &#8220;crawling braket inflation&#8221; for a net negative return.I&#8217;d also like to mention the near non-existence of the &#8220;Corporate Payroll Tax&#8221; contributing to our GDP revenues,since the &#8220;WTO&#8221; &#8220;Fair Trade incoporated new language. The benefits of #1)Senate Bill(S.1637)10/2003,and#2)House Bill(H.R. 2896)10/2003 inacted to save more than $50Bn in new tax cuts to corporations. The ratioale was an attempt to satify competing business interest,these bills offer dozens of targeted tax breaks for US manufacturers,and multinational corp.&#8217;s : tax breaks targeted in this manner can create economic inefficiencies by favoring certain activities over others that may be economically superior but less profitable once the tax break is favored in. Both of these measures also provide a temporary tax reduction for the &#8220;Repatriation of Overseass Profits&#8221;! Finally, my point is that we have a dynamic economy needing continuous oversite.</p>
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		<title>By: SendthistoDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>SendthistoDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe Biden.....is this &quot;fair enough&quot; for you?</description>
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you have a democracy when the Presidency (and other elected positions) have been bought?</description>
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		<title>By: Will Beeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Beeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m up past my 9:00 bedtime here in rural Mississippi because it&#039;s hard for me to sleep while I see this wonderful country of ours sink to new lows day after day. My 4 year old daughter is asleep in the room next door. These days I feel the need to watch over her more. As you guys debate who should pay the taxes and who will get the handouts,guess what? It&#039;s not about you! It&#039;s about all of us. All of us will have to give more. But for me, I give up. The system has been broken by greed. And here&#039;s how it&#039;s going to go down. People like me, educated and trained soldiers,(5 generations of soldiers in my family) that in the past came to this country&#039;s rescue...... give up! Let it burn along with all your millions. You can leave the U.S. Good luck. Without America you&#039;ll need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m up past my 9:00 bedtime here in rural Mississippi because it&#8217;s hard for me to sleep while I see this wonderful country of ours sink to new lows day after day. My 4 year old daughter is asleep in the room next door. These days I feel the need to watch over her more. As you guys debate who should pay the taxes and who will get the handouts,guess what? It&#8217;s not about you! It&#8217;s about all of us. All of us will have to give more. But for me, I give up. The system has been broken by greed. And here&#8217;s how it&#8217;s going to go down. People like me, educated and trained soldiers,(5 generations of soldiers in my family) that in the past came to this country&#8217;s rescue&#8230;&#8230; give up! Let it burn along with all your millions. You can leave the U.S. Good luck. Without America you&#8217;ll need it.</p>
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