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  • December 23, 2008 11:51 AM EST by Brian Sullivan

    If California Goes Broke, Will American Taxpayers Pick Up The Tab?

    Scary story of the day: California may be broke in two months.

    According to the AP:

    California's chief financial officer warned Monday that the state would run out of money in about two months as hopes of a Christmas budget compromise melted into political finger-pointing by the end of the day.   Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger began the day on a cheerful note, suggesting that negotiations with Democratic leaders could lead to a budget deal as early as this week to help close the $42 billion shortfall that is projected through June 2010.Let's repeat that: $42 billion dollar budget shortfall.   That is about 2.5 times the loan just provided to GM and Chrysler.    And one wonders if the outcome - begging for a federal bailout - will be the same as with the automakers.   As much lobbying power as the automakers have, can any group have more lobbying power than the government itself?

    If the Federal government has to step in to help with jobs, payroll and pensions it will be a tall and expensive task.   According to the State Controller's Office, California has 238,816 employees on the payroll.    The monthly payroll disbursement in October was $1.595 billion dollars.   Simple math tells you that the average payroll check = $1.595 billion / 238,816, or about $80,000 per year for each California state employee.    That is the average, indicating many in the state make much more.   And the generous state pensions guarantee much of that income is going to be paid for life.

    The billion dollar question then is: if California does go broke, will the U.S. taxpayer be on the hook for those salaries and pensions?

    Let's hope not, because the burden is substantial.   The Golden State has a leaden problem in payroll, especially as many of the biggest departments in terms of number of workers are those that are related to public costs and tax collection and disbursement.    Tax money being used as payroll for those who figure out how to collect and spend more tax money.   Circuitious at best, frustrating at worst.

    The 11 biggest departments in the State by total number of employees are as follows, listed by number of employees as of October 2008:

    • Transportation (across 12 districts & administration) 20,675
    • Higway Patrol 10,805
    • Motor Vehicles 9,514
    • State Insurance Fund 8,068
    • Employment Agency 7,772
    • Franchise Tax Board 6,484
    • Forestry & Fire Protection 5,750
    • Corrections Administration 5,532
    • Justice 5,222
    • Parks & Recreation 4,730
    • Board of Equalization 3,950

    The oddly-named Board of Equalization is the department that collects sales and use taxes and helps disburses the money.   Taxes propogating more jobs related to taxes.

    By the way, the California Alternative Energy Senior Financial Authority is a department of just one, and the Commission on Aging emplys just three persons, despite that fact that dealing with energy and demographic trends are some of our biggest challenges.

    While I don't have the link embedded, be sure to go to our video page and check out my interview this afternoon with State Controller John Chiang.

    On a side note, here's a marketing tip to the UAW: Instead of complaining that foreign automakers got "unfair" tax breaks by the U.S. southern states to build plants there as the primary response to public anger over the $17.4 billion dollar rescue loan, a better public relations move might be to discuss the pay scales of government employees.   At least the UAW is making cars.

cindylu

Brian, When Arnold first got elected, he said he was going to "open the books" and find out where all the money went. I do not believe he ever did that. I think this would be a good time to keep that pledge, because, where has all our money gone? Does anybody know? It would be interesting to find out.

December 23, 2008 at 3:55 pm

Edward H

I have a friend that used to work for the State of Claifornia. He retired 3 years ago with a $4000.00 a month pension and full coverage health care at a whopping cost of $10.00 dollars a month. It doesn't take a math giant to figure out what's going wrong. It's time to look at these retirement packages and bring them more into reason. I used to work in the steel industry, and my 20 years of service netted me $267.11 a month and NO health benifits. The taxpayer CANNOT substain the burden being placed upon them--ever heard of the Goose that laid the Golden egg ???

December 23, 2008 at 3:27 pm

earle

Since the 80's the influx of illegal immigrants, and absolutely no accountability to collecting taxes (loss revenue)from there growing numbers has taken its toll! Hospitals have gone bankrupted,social services have been strained to the beaking point to facilitate these illigals,and the bulk of government subsidized programs ie.) food stamps, cash stip's etc.have helped out only the bottom line of the exploiter's ,and enablers of this sad situation! PS This is not an isolated situation in Calif.,but an epedemic throught out the country. Merry Christmas Brian!

December 23, 2008 at 3:11 pm

Bob Hickerson

To paraphrase the late French queen Marie Antoinette" Le them go broke" For the past half century, all these airheads from the environmental and entertainment industry made it harder for business to operate in the state through higher taxes and regulations to "save the earth" Look at the result. California has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country on a par with Michigan. Before Californians have the gall to tell us to go green, they should clean up their act. Stop listening to far-left groups like the California Nurses Association, Earthjustice, the Sierrs Club and other far left kook groups and stop thinking that the taxpayer is somebody who you can stal their money. Or, why don't we cede the state back to Mexico? I think they will have to adjust to no gay marraige because Mexico prohibits it. Also, it would shift the balance of power from left to right because the loss of 55 electoral votes would make an impact.

December 23, 2008 at 3:03 pm

Harold

Looks like Chapter 11 is the only way to defeat the huge deficits caused by the overspending in CA. Like the UAW in Michigan and elsewhere; they will only give up their unsustainable benefits if forced to thru bankruptcy.

December 23, 2008 at 2:41 pm

Listening in Texas

Let's save some real money here and simply cut HISTORY lessons from the curriculum -- NO ONE SEEMS TO BE PAYING ATTENTION ANYWAY or learning from other's mistakes of those that came before us.

December 23, 2008 at 2:11 pm

Robert

Is it too much to ask a state like CA to cut some programs or to save the state? I for one thought when Arnold took office that he would really try to push his ideals for living within our means but alas the pressures of special interest and the representatives in it affected that outcome and can't seem to get on the same page. It's this simple.. you cant afford it dont pay for it however, once the cash door is opened in goverment it takes an act of GOD to close it. This is a roller coaster this state has been on for many years and its nothing new. I live in CA and it's taxed to the hilt just like other states. We need a miracle. Dear Santa... CA has been naughty this year.

December 23, 2008 at 1:38 pm

Truman

Hey, if California may be broke ? try the US I give it 9 months maybe.

December 23, 2008 at 1:13 pm

Truman

The answer is simple... California in order to get money will have to either ? A. Start making cars that only further depreciate cars on the lots - that still won't sell. B. Declare itself a bank. C. Borrow direct from China ? I don't know probably A. or B.

December 23, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Listening in Texas

Isn't California typically on the lead for US policies and government actions? Many policies in California usually end up coming across the US. So, if their government is already broke; and Obama has stated he wants to INCREASE government; what makes us believe that the US fate will be any different than that of California? We have borrowed how much money at what interest rate when the economy was still good? Now that we are in a down turn there is LESS money coming in... now what will the shortage for the US government be? Where is all this money coming from? If we already had a deficite last year of $462 Billion; so if we then are borrowing and bailing out to the tune of $7.2 TRILLION; how much will that long term debt add to the annual deficite? I realize that the government can do some fast and fancy accounting tactics and keep certain things "off" the books and the balance sheets... just like the banks have done... just like Orange County California did by financing short term obligations with long term bonds... and such silly things; but what is the overall PROJECTED REAL effect of all this? We are spending a LOT of time on this UAW stuff; however they have not even "borrowed" 3% of the total of what has been allocated under TARP. Is this a ruse to keep us from talking about the 150 BILLION to AIG; and what about the other banks and such that have received all this money already. Am I correct in what I am reading that "NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY HAS GONE?" WOW!

December 23, 2008 at 12:47 pm

SoCal Al

The State of California needs to file bankruptcy, fire 20% of its employees, and renegotiate lower pay, benefits, and pensions for the remaining civil SERVANTS. The inmates are definitely running the asylum here in California. The Democrats in the state legislature and Shwartzenegger are perfect examples that power corrupts.

December 23, 2008 at 12:22 pm

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  • Brian Sullivan joined FOX Business Network (FBN) in April 2008 as an anchor. He co-anchors the 10am-12pm ET hours of the FOX Business block. Prior to joining FBN, Sullivan served as an anchor for Bloomberg Television where he hosted the programs Morning Call and In Focus.

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