Here's the scenario: The roof of your house is on fire. At the same time a tree falls in your yard, smashing your neighbors fence. The neighbor comes out and you begin discussing the broken fence, how to fix it and who should cover the cost. You spend lots of time talking about this, reach a deal and feel good about it. All while your roof keeps burning and eventually the entire home burns down. The fence deal doesn't look so good after that. Neither does the recently-approved auto loan package in that it does not address the "fire" of the massive UAW pension obligations.
The deal's ambitious targets for the companies include replacing two-thirds of their debt with stock; using more stock instead of cash to fund retiree health-care obligations; eliminating much-criticized union "jobs banks" that pay laid-off auto workers; and establishing wage structures and workplace rules that are more competitive with foreign rivals.
Notice the pension costs faced by GM and Chrysler are not even discussed. They are obvious in their absence. It is clear that the pensions are sacrosanct, the cow so sacred that it dare not even be discussed. Sadly, that cow is also the one kicking the lamp over in the barn and setting off the inferno.
Reference again the New York Times story a week ago laying out the cost differences between the domestic and foreign auto companies. According to the article, on average GM, Ford and Chrysler pay $3 per hour more in actual wages, $5 per hour more in vacation and overtime, just $1 per more in current benefits, but a whopping $13 per hour more in legacy costs such as pensions. Put another way, the legacy costs per worker per hour are more than all the other higher costs combined. Yet the UAW, automakers and the government only continue to discuss the wages and health care issues and leave the real problem of pension reform presumably to the imagination.
The problem is growing worse by the year, as the UAW workforce continues to age and place an increased burden on the companies. Check out this page from the UAW's own website, written back in 2003. It notes that the average age of a GM/Delphi worker was 48.9 that year with the average length of service at 23.3. 30 years of service is the primary retirement figure. This means that in less than 7 years (2010, as this article was written in 2003) most GM/Delphi workers would be eligible to retire with full benefits. All the the ripe old age of 56.
56 years old. Today, that is basically middle age. The average lifespan of an American is now nearly 80 years. It is very likely that many workers will be getting benefits for longer than they actually worked at a given company.
If the domestics were more profitable than their foreign counterparts the problem may not be so severe. Yet they are less profitable, indeed not profitable at all. The Times article also notes that the Detroit 3 sell their cars for an average of $2,500 less than Toyota, Honda and others. Higher costs, lower margins and selling prices. It doesn't a PhD in economics to understand the problem.
The reality is simple: until the domestic auto companies can figure out a way to deal with their crippling legacy and pension costs, they will continue to be at a significant cost disadvantage to their non-union competitors. The union and its members no doubt consider the pension untouchable. Understandable, given that more than a million retirees count on it. Yet the pension is also the problem, and the thing that will likely permanently prevent them from ever being truly cost competitive.
Which brings us to the decision no one wants to address: find a way to wind down the pensions or find a way to wind down GM, Ford and Chrysler. Years of fiddling with other aspects of the problem have delayed the need to get to this hard conclusion, but nearly everyone knew it was coming. The downturn in the economy and credit markets is a problem, but not the problem. It is merely the "black swan" event that exposed the structural flaw. It's like having $10,000 in credit card debt on a $100,000 per year salary, having your salary cut to $50,000 and then blaming your bankruptcy on the pay cut. Yes, the pay cut hurt, but the real problem was the initial debt load.
If the pension plan is not addressed and altered in a serious manner soon, the only option will be bankruptcy and a breaking of the plan regardless. The cow may be sacred, but it's not immortal.
Get rid of these out of date Unions and their 'Us' vs 'Them' mentality. If they don't want to be out on the street selling apples, they need to get real. Unions had their place, but that time is long gone. The only purpose of unions now is to collect dues and to promote longevity rather than productivity!
December 22, 2008 at 10:20 am
dude
By the way, Brian Sullivan nailed on the head with this piece.
December 22, 2008 at 9:09 am
dude
I am all for buying american but Honda and Toyota now make a better car for the money. I hope GM, Ford and Chrysler get out of this mess but wow, do they have an uphill battle.
December 22, 2008 at 9:08 am
6ftrabbit
It's been said that no deal is complete until somebody get's screwed.
December 21, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Gary Driscoll
Also not mentioned is the problem of paying more than $100 Billion of debt with $5 Billion of stock (the total stock market valuation of GM). Even if the debt is only worth 15 cents on the dollar, that still is more than the total equity value of GM. GM has more value to bondholders as scrap steel and vacant buildings! Why would bondholders take worthless stock (even in place of near-worthless bonds)?
December 21, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Listening in Texas
Maybe this solution is more simple than we think. It is a harder decision but a more realistic one.
We can provide loan after loan after loan; bailout with billions and accomplish nothing.
There is still the matter of the simple "budget" X amount of dollars come in and Y amount of dollars go out; There should be a new result of Z which is called a profit.
With the big three; no amount of money will be enough to ever see a Z number or P - R - O - F - I - T!!
This is their problem and they are making it ours.
There is a result that we are only delaying here. The big 3 cannot survive in their current form. PERIOD.
GM and Chrysler have made too many business errors to remain in business at all. Much less in a restructuring or being competitive.
As continued to be pointed out they did not adjust to make cars the consumer wanted; obviously the consumer was happy at the time purchasing SUVs that were a LARGER PROFIT margin than smaller cars; so, where did all that PROFIT go??? I guess this is the question of the day.
Whether or not any discussion occur on pension funds; or any other subject regarding company expenses; the bottom line is "do they EARN a PROFIT or NOT".
If they cannot, the result will be in the realm of the buggy whip companies. Just not many around anymore.
UAW or not; bottom line; set a structure to EARN a PROFIT, get private investors to participate or CLOSE THE DOORS!! It is no more difficult than this; despite any potenital job loss stats!
December 21, 2008 at 11:58 am
bruce
The longer this goes on the more problematic the solution becomes. The enormity of these companies current losses indicates that they've been operating at or barely above their break-even points for years, IN A BOOMING ECONOMY! The analogy to post war Studebaker is creepy. That company stayed afloat only as long as the post war sellers market lasted. But by 1953 that market had become saturated. Sales declined by about 40% and the company went from a 200 million dollar market cap to 20 million in one year. Sound familiar? Declining market share, antiquated business model and huge legacy costs didn't help the company (that started out making horse buggies)either. And they had good relations with the UAW! The company was so short of cash, all it could do was use the same recycled 1953 design over and over again...sort of like the 1980s Chevy Suburban morphing into the current Escalante. Well, we know what happened to Studebaker and as it can't happen to the Detroit three fast enough for me!
Bruce
Brian Sullivan joined FOX Business Network (FBN) in April 2008 as an anchor. He co-anchors the 10am-12pm ET hours of the FOX Business block.
Prior to joining FBN, Sullivan served as an anchor for Bloomberg Television where he hosted the programs Morning Call and In Focus.
Nelson
Get rid of these out of date Unions and their 'Us' vs 'Them' mentality. If they don't want to be out on the street selling apples, they need to get real. Unions had their place, but that time is long gone. The only purpose of unions now is to collect dues and to promote longevity rather than productivity!
dude
By the way, Brian Sullivan nailed on the head with this piece.
dude
I am all for buying american but Honda and Toyota now make a better car for the money. I hope GM, Ford and Chrysler get out of this mess but wow, do they have an uphill battle.
6ftrabbit
It's been said that no deal is complete until somebody get's screwed.
Gary Driscoll
Also not mentioned is the problem of paying more than $100 Billion of debt with $5 Billion of stock (the total stock market valuation of GM). Even if the debt is only worth 15 cents on the dollar, that still is more than the total equity value of GM. GM has more value to bondholders as scrap steel and vacant buildings! Why would bondholders take worthless stock (even in place of near-worthless bonds)?
Listening in Texas
Maybe this solution is more simple than we think. It is a harder decision but a more realistic one. We can provide loan after loan after loan; bailout with billions and accomplish nothing. There is still the matter of the simple "budget" X amount of dollars come in and Y amount of dollars go out; There should be a new result of Z which is called a profit. With the big three; no amount of money will be enough to ever see a Z number or P - R - O - F - I - T!! This is their problem and they are making it ours. There is a result that we are only delaying here. The big 3 cannot survive in their current form. PERIOD. GM and Chrysler have made too many business errors to remain in business at all. Much less in a restructuring or being competitive. As continued to be pointed out they did not adjust to make cars the consumer wanted; obviously the consumer was happy at the time purchasing SUVs that were a LARGER PROFIT margin than smaller cars; so, where did all that PROFIT go??? I guess this is the question of the day. Whether or not any discussion occur on pension funds; or any other subject regarding company expenses; the bottom line is "do they EARN a PROFIT or NOT". If they cannot, the result will be in the realm of the buggy whip companies. Just not many around anymore. UAW or not; bottom line; set a structure to EARN a PROFIT, get private investors to participate or CLOSE THE DOORS!! It is no more difficult than this; despite any potenital job loss stats!
bruce
The longer this goes on the more problematic the solution becomes. The enormity of these companies current losses indicates that they've been operating at or barely above their break-even points for years, IN A BOOMING ECONOMY! The analogy to post war Studebaker is creepy. That company stayed afloat only as long as the post war sellers market lasted. But by 1953 that market had become saturated. Sales declined by about 40% and the company went from a 200 million dollar market cap to 20 million in one year. Sound familiar? Declining market share, antiquated business model and huge legacy costs didn't help the company (that started out making horse buggies)either. And they had good relations with the UAW! The company was so short of cash, all it could do was use the same recycled 1953 design over and over again...sort of like the 1980s Chevy Suburban morphing into the current Escalante. Well, we know what happened to Studebaker and as it can't happen to the Detroit three fast enough for me! Bruce