<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Presser Reaction: UAW Keeps Talking About Wages, Not Talking About Legacy Costs</title>
	<atom:link href="http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/</link>
	<description>FOXBusiness</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:24:21 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-3/#comment-3225</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3225</guid>
		<description>UAW: 
United Auto Workers 
But doesn’t a more meaningful description of the “UAW” include the following??? 
Underachievers Automotive Welfare 
Unconstitutional American Welfare 
Unearned, Undeserved, Unmerited, Unnecessary, Unjustified, Undemocratic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UAW:<br />
United Auto Workers<br />
But doesn’t a more meaningful description of the “UAW” include the following???<br />
Underachievers Automotive Welfare<br />
Unconstitutional American Welfare<br />
Unearned, Undeserved, Unmerited, Unnecessary, Unjustified, Undemocratic</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Al.</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-3/#comment-3221</link>
		<dc:creator>Al.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3221</guid>
		<description>I just have one question. Does Ron Gettlefinger have a real job or his sole mission in life is to suck dry the blood of great american companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have one question. Does Ron Gettlefinger have a real job or his sole mission in life is to suck dry the blood of great american companies?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Miller</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-3/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3206</guid>
		<description>Boycott all UAW products.If the Guvernment dosen&#039;t have the gutts to bring theese people down to earth,We the people must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycott all UAW products.If the Guvernment dosen&#8217;t have the gutts to bring theese people down to earth,We the people must.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Just Wondering</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-3/#comment-3205</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3205</guid>
		<description>Just wondering.....if you had worked for an employer for 30 years under a mutual promise that at the end of 30 years, you would be given $xxxx per month for the rest of your life - and then you went ahead and did the work, made future financial decisions based on that promise, and then retired, what would you do if it were suddenly taken away and you were close to 60 years old?  How are you supposed to make it up NOW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering&#8230;..if you had worked for an employer for 30 years under a mutual promise that at the end of 30 years, you would be given $xxxx per month for the rest of your life &#8211; and then you went ahead and did the work, made future financial decisions based on that promise, and then retired, what would you do if it were suddenly taken away and you were close to 60 years old?  How are you supposed to make it up NOW?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: THC</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-3/#comment-3013</link>
		<dc:creator>THC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3013</guid>
		<description>I am a recently retired COO of a NYSE manufacturing company with international operations and have 35 years of experience in both union and non-union environments.  I began my career as a union member.

I am amazed that so little is being said about the real labor issue affecting the competitiveness of the American automotive industry.  Inevitably the discussion goes to pay and benefits, which misses the overriding factor controlling total cost:  WORK RULES.  Work rules de-lever the efficacy of capital thereby contributing to significantly higher total costs and lower product quality.  The notion that labor contributes 10% to the cost of a car may be valid under archaic accounting conventions.  It is pure fantasy to think the impact of labor is only 10% of the total cost.

Until American automotive company management and labor practice what their foreign competitors have long known regarding work rules, we are simply wasting money on loans, bailouts or any other attempts to bridge them to competitiveness.  Work rules rob employees of the their natural desire to contribute and the opportunity to secure their own future.  Those whose labor generates the greatest leverage on invested capital win.  The winners can and should be well compensated.  In an organization with competent management and good leadership employees find restrictive work rules demeaning.
	
THC, Portland, OR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a recently retired COO of a NYSE manufacturing company with international operations and have 35 years of experience in both union and non-union environments.  I began my career as a union member.</p>
<p>I am amazed that so little is being said about the real labor issue affecting the competitiveness of the American automotive industry.  Inevitably the discussion goes to pay and benefits, which misses the overriding factor controlling total cost:  WORK RULES.  Work rules de-lever the efficacy of capital thereby contributing to significantly higher total costs and lower product quality.  The notion that labor contributes 10% to the cost of a car may be valid under archaic accounting conventions.  It is pure fantasy to think the impact of labor is only 10% of the total cost.</p>
<p>Until American automotive company management and labor practice what their foreign competitors have long known regarding work rules, we are simply wasting money on loans, bailouts or any other attempts to bridge them to competitiveness.  Work rules rob employees of the their natural desire to contribute and the opportunity to secure their own future.  Those whose labor generates the greatest leverage on invested capital win.  The winners can and should be well compensated.  In an organization with competent management and good leadership employees find restrictive work rules demeaning.</p>
<p>THC, Portland, OR</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-2/#comment-3012</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3012</guid>
		<description>All the reporting on this subject is useless. Politics of fear and corruption win. Bailout will coincide on Tuesday with rate cut in efforts to deflect huge losses from goldman Sachs. This plan is to help wall street and we all know where pandering to wall street takes us. Same old crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the reporting on this subject is useless. Politics of fear and corruption win. Bailout will coincide on Tuesday with rate cut in efforts to deflect huge losses from goldman Sachs. This plan is to help wall street and we all know where pandering to wall street takes us. Same old crap.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ann Jones</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-2/#comment-3008</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3008</guid>
		<description>I am surprised that no one has questioned why there is no talk on Capital Hill about asking the banks who took bailout money to make commitments to the automakers that they will ease credit restrictions and start lending to consumers so they can buy Big 3 cars.  It doesn&#039;t matter how much money the government throws at the Big 3, if the banks are not willing to give car loans, no one can buy anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that no one has questioned why there is no talk on Capital Hill about asking the banks who took bailout money to make commitments to the automakers that they will ease credit restrictions and start lending to consumers so they can buy Big 3 cars.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how much money the government throws at the Big 3, if the banks are not willing to give car loans, no one can buy anyway.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Engineer</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-2/#comment-3005</link>
		<dc:creator>Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3005</guid>
		<description>Well! A lot of folks love the UAW! Simple fact is that the UAW has demanded and received the promise of benefits that cannot be paid by GM, Chrysler and Ford even though Ford only lost about $120M last quarter and stands to benefit if Chrysler goes down.  Buying foreign is not going to help.  The UAW will not yield so GM and Chrysler will end up bankrupt.  Then they will get very little which is why they are fighting that path.  I want them to survive! I get the idea some folks talking about the problem have never even bought a Ford or GM or Chrysler product. Their perception is that the cars are poor. Not true. But, the prices have gotten out of control driven by high cost of benefits. Question: Who pays for health care and retirement for foreign companies or do they buy their own?  If the latter is true, one way to level the playing field would be to force foreign to pay which would result in them moving production off shore.  So in the end game, regretfully, the excessive benefits of UAW have to go one way or another.   (Or, stop asking for tax payer money.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well! A lot of folks love the UAW! Simple fact is that the UAW has demanded and received the promise of benefits that cannot be paid by GM, Chrysler and Ford even though Ford only lost about $120M last quarter and stands to benefit if Chrysler goes down.  Buying foreign is not going to help.  The UAW will not yield so GM and Chrysler will end up bankrupt.  Then they will get very little which is why they are fighting that path.  I want them to survive! I get the idea some folks talking about the problem have never even bought a Ford or GM or Chrysler product. Their perception is that the cars are poor. Not true. But, the prices have gotten out of control driven by high cost of benefits. Question: Who pays for health care and retirement for foreign companies or do they buy their own?  If the latter is true, one way to level the playing field would be to force foreign to pay which would result in them moving production off shore.  So in the end game, regretfully, the excessive benefits of UAW have to go one way or another.   (Or, stop asking for tax payer money.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DAWAYNE</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-2/#comment-3000</link>
		<dc:creator>DAWAYNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-3000</guid>
		<description>BOYCOTT IT IS OUR ONLY WEAPON LEFT. THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO ANYTHING TO REALLY REFORM THE BIG THREE AND THEY WILL COST US BILLIONS IF NOT TRILLIONS. SO !!!!!!BOYCOTT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ONLY THE ONES THAT EXCEPT GOVERNEMNT MONEY. GM AND CHRYSLER.    FORD IS NOT ASKING FOR A LOAN, WHY THEY SAW THIS COMING AND SOLD MANY OF THERE HOLDING AND CUST BACK TO TRY TO WEATHER THIS STORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOYCOTT IT IS OUR ONLY WEAPON LEFT. THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT DO ANYTHING TO REALLY REFORM THE BIG THREE AND THEY WILL COST US BILLIONS IF NOT TRILLIONS. SO !!!!!!BOYCOTT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ONLY THE ONES THAT EXCEPT GOVERNEMNT MONEY. GM AND CHRYSLER.    FORD IS NOT ASKING FOR A LOAN, WHY THEY SAW THIS COMING AND SOLD MANY OF THERE HOLDING AND CUST BACK TO TRY TO WEATHER THIS STORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sherman Daniels</title>
		<link>http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/12/12/presser-reaction-uaw-keeps-talking-about-wages-not-talking-about-legacy-costs/comment-page-2/#comment-2987</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherman Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/?p=351#comment-2987</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve been rethinking the bailout/loan from my (realistic?) elementary perspective. 

It seems logical to choke the UAW while choking the American 
Taxpayer too.  The question  is &quot;how much?&quot;.   The auto-workers now earn (earn? or have a right to receive?)approximately 9-10 times the wages that the Tax Payer earns (or receives).  If the UAW is choked and forced to receive a wage equal to twice the amount  that the taxpayer receives, then this should be semi-acceptable to the tax payer.  (NOT ACCEPTABLE to the UAW, but nothing is, except MORE MONEY).  This arrangement might allow the Big three to survive, ALONG WITH THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER.  It may look like it&#039;s more important for the Big 3/UAW to survive than it is for the taxpayer  survive, but this must be an octical palusion or mirage produced whenever UAW President, The Reverend Ron Gettlefinger describes the problem.

Ron preaches a form of equality involving a level playing field with Big3 management, etc.  The trouble is he practices a &quot;pay or strike&quot; form of semi-extortion against the Big3.  This method makes him seem more equal to The Reverend Al Capone than anyone else. 

The American Taxpayer has a voice in what happens, and it&#039;s time for the American Taxpayer to say what he/she wants in this Socialistic / Capitalistic argument and to say it very loud and very clear.  If the Tax payer does not speak up, then the pill may be very, very hard to swallow.

honestly,
S. Daniels
WV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been rethinking the bailout/loan from my (realistic?) elementary perspective. </p>
<p>It seems logical to choke the UAW while choking the American<br />
Taxpayer too.  The question  is &#8220;how much?&#8221;.   The auto-workers now earn (earn? or have a right to receive?)approximately 9-10 times the wages that the Tax Payer earns (or receives).  If the UAW is choked and forced to receive a wage equal to twice the amount  that the taxpayer receives, then this should be semi-acceptable to the tax payer.  (NOT ACCEPTABLE to the UAW, but nothing is, except MORE MONEY).  This arrangement might allow the Big three to survive, ALONG WITH THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER.  It may look like it&#8217;s more important for the Big 3/UAW to survive than it is for the taxpayer  survive, but this must be an octical palusion or mirage produced whenever UAW President, The Reverend Ron Gettlefinger describes the problem.</p>
<p>Ron preaches a form of equality involving a level playing field with Big3 management, etc.  The trouble is he practices a &#8220;pay or strike&#8221; form of semi-extortion against the Big3.  This method makes him seem more equal to The Reverend Al Capone than anyone else. </p>
<p>The American Taxpayer has a voice in what happens, and it&#8217;s time for the American Taxpayer to say what he/she wants in this Socialistic / Capitalistic argument and to say it very loud and very clear.  If the Tax payer does not speak up, then the pill may be very, very hard to swallow.</p>
<p>honestly,<br />
S. Daniels<br />
WV</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>