Comments on: How Does 37.7 Cents on the Dollar Sound, Californians?

By: Joe the Lib

Joe the Lib — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:15:03 +0000

Good day all,
First, thanks to Brian for finding and sharing this information. It definitely helps to frame ones thoughts on take home and taxes. I don’t think most people understand the complexity of our entire tax structure(payroll, income, sales, etc.) until you put it into dollars and cents.

On to the rant:

After reading the whole article and some of the comments, I’m amazed we even have a country anymore! At some point in our past, when faced with federal income tax rates of 90%, the strong, enterprising people of this country did not stop working, or growing businesses, or investing. They continued on the path that made this country great. They didn’t give up, give in or leave. Based on some of the comments I’m seeing here, those people were fools. Let’s rethink that a bit.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess that 98% of us commenting did not inherit a significant portion of our wealth. Of those, I’m going to say at least 75% had jobs before college, that paid minimum wage or near, and we moved up through the economic ladder, doing a little better each year and at each job. Now, hopefully, we represent the economic middle class or better.

If that’s so, haven’t we made the decision to move our income up into a higher tax bracket at least 3 times? If you’re in that magic unlimited highest bracket, you made the choice 5 times! But now, that the number is moving up again, oh we’re done for. DONE. The rich will leave the greatest country in the history of mankind over this. And go to Canada. Or France. They don’t value this country, and it’s rights, priviledges and freedoms. They can get better elsewhere. I hear there are better schools in China, better healthcare almost everywhere else and much lower income taxes in Korea, Australia, Japan and Mexico.

Based on history, that’s not the case. The great among us will continue to do great things. Workers will work, thinkers will think, leaders will lead and we will remain strong. I think, overall, it’s better to be an American than a citizen of any other country in the world. For enough reason that a change in the tax structure can’t make me leave. If I don’t like it, I talk to my neighbors and I vote to change it.

Be well and stay safe all,
Joe

By: Charlie Barker

Charlie Barker — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:30:47 +0000

I see that a lot of folk out there understand what Obama is, a Marxist.
He is leading the non-thinking entities on feet to a Marxist government.
I hope Americans wake up and vote against Obama. I will not hold my breath!

By: Ohio MBA

Ohio MBA — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:25:26 +0000

To nobody in CA. Succession wont work for you all. your broke remember. Get some of the Obama funds prior to leaving if you wish to have any success. However unless you change your ways those funds wont last long. The fruits and nuts liberals will have it all spent on Acorns and giveaway programs in short order. Class warfare and race wars never seemed a probability in America, Now I am begining to wonder. I lived in Quantico VA during the race riots of the 60’s as a kid and was terrified they would come to my house. I moved to Irvine Ca in the early 90’s and was there for the race riots. I move to Cin Oh in 97 and damn if we didnt have race riots here. NOW I AM CONCERNED AGAIN.

By: Ohio MBA

Ohio MBA — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:24:36 +0000

By: LIBERTY!

LIBERTY! — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:06:51 +0000

When has our gov’t done anything right?

By: Working too hard in California

Working too hard in California — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:47:08 +0000

For us Californians trying to fight back…

http://www.hjta.org/

-A

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:32:16 +0000

On the brightside if he is elected I can now remove helthcare from my cost,go ut of business and drop down to be one of the 40% that will get a check now. Since good ol brother obhama is going to own the houses. my neighbors who bought a $400,000 home being unemployed when they bought it never made any payments and just got a write down to $200,000 from Bank of America at 5.2% 30 year fixed. They never paid HOA and my bank says since I am not behind I don’t need help.

Well guess what I am tired of working 15 hours a day 7 days a week and paying salary and missing my kids. I decided as soon as he is elected dumping health care and letting gov pick it up they have a nice system. Then after all my low life neighbors get the write downs letting all mine go so they can be upside down again and let Bank of America choke twice. Then drop myself down to be one of the 40% that get check every year and buy steaks with the other food stamp people (tired of chicken) and letting my employees go as soon as they extend those unemployment checks for 48 months.
By the way I called my congressman asked him if congress was going to take pay cut and he said “there is no vote for it” A**HOLE knows they have to vote no to not get it !!!
Done stck a fork in the pig lipstick and all

By: Super Sucker

Super Sucker — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:31:03 +0000

I can only speak for what I will do if this comes to pass. I have my own successful service oriented business. I enjoy a good income only because I work at it more than 80 hours per week. The only reason I would continue to work like that under the Obama plan is if I put no monetary value on my personal time. If that is the assumption, it is faulty. When the government gets more of the fruit fom my labor than I do, the labor will slow down to a government employee’s level. Employees will be let go, and, although I will have less disposable income, I will have personal time that I have not had for years. Actually, I will be able to live with that. My only apprehension is the harm it will do to my customers, since more than half will be informed that I will no longer be working for them. However, assuming they are a resresentative sample of the general population, they will be getting exactly what they are voting for.

By: Adam Smith

Adam Smith — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:14:05 +0000

“Can you imagine how the markets will rebound if the fear of Obama and the Democrats is alleviated?” wrote J. Houston
Of course. And why aren’t the talking heads & financial gurus on the boob-tube warning us that a major aggravating factor in the current Wall Street dive is the fear of electing Barack H. Obama, candidate of the Social Democrats?
European history repeats itself on this side of the pond!

By: a nobody in CA

a nobody in CA — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:00:04 +0000

Brian–I am a native Californian, and I have one word for you: “Secession!”

We are a very dysfunctional state with a lot of issues…but you gotta wonder if we might do better on our own? We are one of the largest economies in the world.