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		<title>By: Industry Trends &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Slowed Sales Related to Housing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Industry Trends &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Slowed Sales Related to Housing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Edward Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worse problem occured when countless times the president has tried to fix Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and they all were shot down.  We could have stopped this from happening. The real fix will give consequence to bad lenders for making bad loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worse problem occured when countless times the president has tried to fix Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and they all were shot down.  We could have stopped this from happening. The real fix will give consequence to bad lenders for making bad loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We as a country have lost our way.... Our esteemed leaders pontificate to us, the constituents, as though speaking to school children, with analogies of freeway&#039;s clogged with cars from accidents and breakdowns much the way the financial institutions are with &quot;toxic assets&quot;! They proclaim their outrage and play their partisan games.

Well I got news for &#039;em. I run a small business and employee approximately 50 people. I have toxic assets too! They are called my employee payroll, my rent, my light bill, adhoc, infinitum . If I have to borrow just to meet these obligations, I&#039;m done and no one comes running to my aid. The Fed has infused $600B into the markets in the last week or so and now we&#039;re going to give another $700B with no real idea where this will end. If I ran my business that way, I would be back talking to the lender sooner or later needing more.    

For decades they have created a climate which urges companies to ship actual jobs to foreign lands. A climate reminiscent of pyramid schemes.... hey, get your friends to get their friends to get their friends to give you $100. You&#039;ll be rich! In the end the guys at the bottom of the pyramid get nothing! It&#039;s a fools game. 

I don&#039;t pretend to understand the economic/accounting doublespeak which is barraging us these days. But I sit in wonder when I read something like the following from &lt;a href=&quot;http://emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/10/01/what-buffett-may-be-missing-at-ge/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EMacs Blog&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;b&gt;But look closely and you’ll see a stunning 53% of GE Capital’s net worth, a total of $31.6 bn, is in mushy ephemera, goodwill and other intangible assets. Meaning, it’s got $28.4 bn in hard assets.

Goodwill and intangibles are often smoke and mirrors term, both somewhat of an accounting artifice, as they are typically the price tags given by accountants and actuaries to assets picked up in acquisitions, for things like the brains in an R&amp;D operation, the future value of licenses and patents, and such. 

Remember, more than half of GE Capital’s net worth, its book value is, well, your guess is as good as mine.&lt;/b&gt;

The bankers and politicians and big business leaders in this country live in a much different reality to mine. I have news for them all. The recession is here, it&#039;s been here. I can tell you the date it started.   

As a nation we have forgotten the value of a dollar and a hard days work. We have been living on borrowed time and money. Sadly I fear we will have to try and eek out an existence on borrowed money for some time to come... time though has run out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We as a country have lost our way&#8230;. Our esteemed leaders pontificate to us, the constituents, as though speaking to school children, with analogies of freeway&#8217;s clogged with cars from accidents and breakdowns much the way the financial institutions are with &#8220;toxic assets&#8221;! They proclaim their outrage and play their partisan games.</p>
<p>Well I got news for &#8216;em. I run a small business and employee approximately 50 people. I have toxic assets too! They are called my employee payroll, my rent, my light bill, adhoc, infinitum . If I have to borrow just to meet these obligations, I&#8217;m done and no one comes running to my aid. The Fed has infused $600B into the markets in the last week or so and now we&#8217;re going to give another $700B with no real idea where this will end. If I ran my business that way, I would be back talking to the lender sooner or later needing more.    </p>
<p>For decades they have created a climate which urges companies to ship actual jobs to foreign lands. A climate reminiscent of pyramid schemes&#8230;. hey, get your friends to get their friends to get their friends to give you $100. You&#8217;ll be rich! In the end the guys at the bottom of the pyramid get nothing! It&#8217;s a fools game. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t pretend to understand the economic/accounting doublespeak which is barraging us these days. But I sit in wonder when I read something like the following from <a href="http://emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2008/10/01/what-buffett-may-be-missing-at-ge/" rel="nofollow">EMacs Blog</a></p>
<p><b>But look closely and you’ll see a stunning 53% of GE Capital’s net worth, a total of $31.6 bn, is in mushy ephemera, goodwill and other intangible assets. Meaning, it’s got $28.4 bn in hard assets.</p>
<p>Goodwill and intangibles are often smoke and mirrors term, both somewhat of an accounting artifice, as they are typically the price tags given by accountants and actuaries to assets picked up in acquisitions, for things like the brains in an R&amp;D operation, the future value of licenses and patents, and such. </p>
<p>Remember, more than half of GE Capital’s net worth, its book value is, well, your guess is as good as mine.</b></p>
<p>The bankers and politicians and big business leaders in this country live in a much different reality to mine. I have news for them all. The recession is here, it&#8217;s been here. I can tell you the date it started.   </p>
<p>As a nation we have forgotten the value of a dollar and a hard days work. We have been living on borrowed time and money. Sadly I fear we will have to try and eek out an existence on borrowed money for some time to come&#8230; time though has run out!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We DO recognize that this is a problem for mainstreet too..  no one is or has ever been in denial of that fact! That was never why we wanted this bill voted down!

 While everyone in the media complains about how mainstreet isn&#039;t listening or doesn&#039;t see the real consequences, I believe it&#039;s everyone else that hasn&#039;t been listening to us!

The reason we are against this bill is because we don&#039;t trust our government, we don&#039;t trust this plan to work, and we don&#039;t want our wealth and freedom stolen from us in the process! 
   
 In other words, we trust the free market system more than we do our own  government and we would rather take the hit now (and yes, we know that means our 401k&#039;s, retirement, college loans, and jobs) than leave the mess for our kids to clean up! Call it throwing in the towel, whatever you want to call it...   or maybe it&#039;s just called REALITY!  Let the markets work it out on it&#039;s own, and maybe our kids will get to live in a stronger and better (and free)  America.  

   Has anyone else noticed that security systems, safes, and gun sales are at an all time high??  

Instead of debating the merits of a flawed bailout plan filled with wooden arrows and race tracks, we need to start thinking about damage control and educating people on what they need to do right now to prepare themselves for what is coming.      We should be spending this money on debt counseling services, putting consumer education classes back in our schools, and getting those vultures (credit card companies) off of our college campuses.  Americans need to learn how to actually invent things and make products again instead of painting other peoples nails, trimming their bushes, and stealing their money for a living! 

We can overcome this, but not if we let &quot;business as usual&quot; in the United States prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We DO recognize that this is a problem for mainstreet too..  no one is or has ever been in denial of that fact! That was never why we wanted this bill voted down!</p>
<p> While everyone in the media complains about how mainstreet isn&#8217;t listening or doesn&#8217;t see the real consequences, I believe it&#8217;s everyone else that hasn&#8217;t been listening to us!</p>
<p>The reason we are against this bill is because we don&#8217;t trust our government, we don&#8217;t trust this plan to work, and we don&#8217;t want our wealth and freedom stolen from us in the process! </p>
<p> In other words, we trust the free market system more than we do our own  government and we would rather take the hit now (and yes, we know that means our 401k&#8217;s, retirement, college loans, and jobs) than leave the mess for our kids to clean up! Call it throwing in the towel, whatever you want to call it&#8230;   or maybe it&#8217;s just called REALITY!  Let the markets work it out on it&#8217;s own, and maybe our kids will get to live in a stronger and better (and free)  America.  </p>
<p>   Has anyone else noticed that security systems, safes, and gun sales are at an all time high??  </p>
<p>Instead of debating the merits of a flawed bailout plan filled with wooden arrows and race tracks, we need to start thinking about damage control and educating people on what they need to do right now to prepare themselves for what is coming.      We should be spending this money on debt counseling services, putting consumer education classes back in our schools, and getting those vultures (credit card companies) off of our college campuses.  Americans need to learn how to actually invent things and make products again instead of painting other peoples nails, trimming their bushes, and stealing their money for a living! </p>
<p>We can overcome this, but not if we let &#8220;business as usual&#8221; in the United States prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bankers want main street to pay there debt. They made a mess of all this. They didn&#039;t get there way last monday and throwed a fit like spoiled little rich kids. Nobodys head has rolled for this and they want us to just hand over 700 billion dollars to them. Thats like a crackhead saying there going to rehab when they get done with that last rock. The bank ceo&#039;s will make a bigger mess AGAIN. It will not be the end of america if we just it let them loose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bankers want main street to pay there debt. They made a mess of all this. They didn&#8217;t get there way last monday and throwed a fit like spoiled little rich kids. Nobodys head has rolled for this and they want us to just hand over 700 billion dollars to them. Thats like a crackhead saying there going to rehab when they get done with that last rock. The bank ceo&#8217;s will make a bigger mess AGAIN. It will not be the end of america if we just it let them loose.</p>
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		<title>By: david plof</title>
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		<dc:creator>david plof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sell Gold 
I am the CEO of a international gold buying company named YourGold. I fully understand the safe haven that purchasing Gold and precious metals in tough times presents for investors.
What about the person in middle America who has little to invest and is scrapping by? This is a perfect opportunity for middle America to sell precious metals, from old jewelry made out of gold, silver, platinum and unused stones. When the country is having a hard time, gold prices rise, making this the right time to get rid of your gold and jewelry for top dollar.  www.yourgold.com will pay top dollar for your items. Check us out, it will be your best move of the day!! 

The economy is bad, home prices are down, but gold is at the top.  Do not wait for it to drop.  You will have wished that you sold!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sell Gold<br />
I am the CEO of a international gold buying company named YourGold. I fully understand the safe haven that purchasing Gold and precious metals in tough times presents for investors.<br />
What about the person in middle America who has little to invest and is scrapping by? This is a perfect opportunity for middle America to sell precious metals, from old jewelry made out of gold, silver, platinum and unused stones. When the country is having a hard time, gold prices rise, making this the right time to get rid of your gold and jewelry for top dollar.  <a href="http://www.yourgold.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.yourgold.com</a> will pay top dollar for your items. Check us out, it will be your best move of the day!! </p>
<p>The economy is bad, home prices are down, but gold is at the top.  Do not wait for it to drop.  You will have wished that you sold!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, buying back these bad loans is being mandated by our Chinese financiers; keeping you focused on the few in Wall St. whose bacon will be saved by this is a diversion from that, which is the real reason for the bailout.

The Democrats like it because it builds up anger and resentment against the &quot;evil rich&quot;, helping their side in the election. Bush has to do it because if he doesn&#039;t, the Chinese have threatened to sell our dollars, which would finish us for the next ten years. Would they really do that? That is something we REALLY can&#039;t afford to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, buying back these bad loans is being mandated by our Chinese financiers; keeping you focused on the few in Wall St. whose bacon will be saved by this is a diversion from that, which is the real reason for the bailout.</p>
<p>The Democrats like it because it builds up anger and resentment against the &#8220;evil rich&#8221;, helping their side in the election. Bush has to do it because if he doesn&#8217;t, the Chinese have threatened to sell our dollars, which would finish us for the next ten years. Would they really do that? That is something we REALLY can&#8217;t afford to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: NIck</title>
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		<dc:creator>NIck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The $9.3 billion dollar Commonfund has frozen, locking up money for the more than 1,000 colleges and universities that use it as a de facto bank account.    This could make it difficult for the schools with their money in the fund to pay for vital operational and payroll needs.&lt;/i&gt;
Brian,These same schools are and have built mammoth &quot;Monticellos&quot; with pork from Homeland Security bills.They&#039;re paying football coaches $4million per year for Gods sake and I&#039;m supposed to feel sorry for them?

&lt;i&gt;Auto sales last month were dismal, with fewer than 1 million cars and trucks sold in September. &lt;/i&gt;
Of course they were.Everyone HAS a vehicle.It&#039;s called supply and demand.With easy credit,everyone bought new vehicles,paying for them for 7 years.How can they buy more when they still owe on the last one?I won&#039;t even get into paying more for groceries,gas,and every petroleum related item out there.

&lt;i&gt;Small business owners who need to meet operation costs or grow their business are finding it increasingly difficult.   While there are loans available, they are at sky-high interest rates.&lt;/i&gt;
What makes it MY responsability to see that the &quot;small business owner&quot; can borrow money?You&#039;re advocating taking my money because the &quot;small business owner&quot;can&#039;t get credit.Guess what?He shouldn&#039;t base his business model on his ability to get credit.

&lt;i&gt;And let’s not forget the housing market.   Consumer spending is 70% of the U.S. economy.    Much of that is related to housing. Not just with realtors and builders, but also everyone who benefits from home transactions such as furniture salespeople, contractors and moving companies.&lt;/i&gt;
Supply and demand Brian.Everyone who wanted a home,got a home.The problem being,they all couldn&#039;t afford a home.Let&#039;s not also forget Brian,that while we&#039;ve been basing our economy on building houses,we&#039;ve been shipping jobs overseas.

Brian,we&#039;ve had the biggest boom to housing ever.Record profits and record sales of household items,homes,appliances,etc.,, were made.At some point,that was destined to end.You&#039;re not seeing the market contract,you&#039;re seeing the market correct itself from a false/propped up economy and you&#039;re advocating propping it up even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The $9.3 billion dollar Commonfund has frozen, locking up money for the more than 1,000 colleges and universities that use it as a de facto bank account.    This could make it difficult for the schools with their money in the fund to pay for vital operational and payroll needs.</i><br />
Brian,These same schools are and have built mammoth &#8220;Monticellos&#8221; with pork from Homeland Security bills.They&#8217;re paying football coaches $4million per year for Gods sake and I&#8217;m supposed to feel sorry for them?</p>
<p><i>Auto sales last month were dismal, with fewer than 1 million cars and trucks sold in September. </i><br />
Of course they were.Everyone HAS a vehicle.It&#8217;s called supply and demand.With easy credit,everyone bought new vehicles,paying for them for 7 years.How can they buy more when they still owe on the last one?I won&#8217;t even get into paying more for groceries,gas,and every petroleum related item out there.</p>
<p><i>Small business owners who need to meet operation costs or grow their business are finding it increasingly difficult.   While there are loans available, they are at sky-high interest rates.</i><br />
What makes it MY responsability to see that the &#8220;small business owner&#8221; can borrow money?You&#8217;re advocating taking my money because the &#8220;small business owner&#8221;can&#8217;t get credit.Guess what?He shouldn&#8217;t base his business model on his ability to get credit.</p>
<p><i>And let’s not forget the housing market.   Consumer spending is 70% of the U.S. economy.    Much of that is related to housing. Not just with realtors and builders, but also everyone who benefits from home transactions such as furniture salespeople, contractors and moving companies.</i><br />
Supply and demand Brian.Everyone who wanted a home,got a home.The problem being,they all couldn&#8217;t afford a home.Let&#8217;s not also forget Brian,that while we&#8217;ve been basing our economy on building houses,we&#8217;ve been shipping jobs overseas.</p>
<p>Brian,we&#8217;ve had the biggest boom to housing ever.Record profits and record sales of household items,homes,appliances,etc.,, were made.At some point,that was destined to end.You&#8217;re not seeing the market contract,you&#8217;re seeing the market correct itself from a false/propped up economy and you&#8217;re advocating propping it up even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other question I have, is in regards to the attempts by this administration and thier financial &quot;wiz kids&quot; to correct the economy over the past couple of years.  Interest rate drops, tax bribes, so on so forth.  Everything they have done so far has failed.  Why should this be any different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other question I have, is in regards to the attempts by this administration and thier financial &#8220;wiz kids&#8221; to correct the economy over the past couple of years.  Interest rate drops, tax bribes, so on so forth.  Everything they have done so far has failed.  Why should this be any different.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I have ready anyone saying this won&#039;t affect (God I hate this term) &quot; Main Street&quot;. I understand perfectly well that it will.  My concern is that everyone, other than Congress, is saying the credit crunch may not even stop once this is done.  So, you and Congress and the wealthy fatcats are asking us to give 700 bil to maybe, possibly stop the credit crunch.  What happens when the 700 bil fails?  Should we add an additional trillion or 5 trillion?  I can&#039;t beleive with all of these supposed financial geniuses this is the best we can come up with.  Not only do we have 700 billion on the plate, they have added 100 billion in tax cuts, and who knowns how much in other bills.  And none of what they are doing protects the tax payer.  My taxes are going to go up and we probably won&#039;t even solve the problem.  I am also giving these idiots the idea that anytime they are in trouble, well the Government will make the people pay. So, I will continue to be against this and I will do my best to vote out anyone who supports it.  There are otherways, if congress were willing to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I have ready anyone saying this won&#8217;t affect (God I hate this term) &#8221; Main Street&#8221;. I understand perfectly well that it will.  My concern is that everyone, other than Congress, is saying the credit crunch may not even stop once this is done.  So, you and Congress and the wealthy fatcats are asking us to give 700 bil to maybe, possibly stop the credit crunch.  What happens when the 700 bil fails?  Should we add an additional trillion or 5 trillion?  I can&#8217;t beleive with all of these supposed financial geniuses this is the best we can come up with.  Not only do we have 700 billion on the plate, they have added 100 billion in tax cuts, and who knowns how much in other bills.  And none of what they are doing protects the tax payer.  My taxes are going to go up and we probably won&#8217;t even solve the problem.  I am also giving these idiots the idea that anytime they are in trouble, well the Government will make the people pay. So, I will continue to be against this and I will do my best to vote out anyone who supports it.  There are otherways, if congress were willing to listen.</p>
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